Revelation: Domaining + Seo = Maximum Earnings
September 22, 2007
Bottom line for those into domaining, seo or internet marketing is earnings. Understanding when it makes more sense to spend a few hours to create a “custom mini site” rather than simply parking your domain names can help boost your revenue in a dramatic way.
Warning: 14 minute video
Domainers: Do you park all your domains? Or have you created sites for some? What has been your experience?
Seo / Site Creators: What are your thoughts on those into domaing? Have you thought about looking into the industry?
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Hi,
Great video. for some reason it stopped about 5 munutes into it and would not restart.
I’ve tried parking at a lot of sites like SEDO, Whypark, etc and never found them to really generate a lot of income. With all of the parking programs it’s your responsibility to work to generate traffic to the site. Since they don’t generate traffic for you and you often lose a lot of traffic when you change the hosting servers my question is why do it. All parking programs take a slice of the ad revenue generated. So why not develop the site yourself, drive the traffic to it and enhance the value of the domain name. The WhyPark site says they give you fresh content for your site and you get to keep 100% of the revenue from the adsense ads and other advertising you place. Sounds like a great deal doesn’t it. Well I found that 90% of the content was short 1 or 2 paragraph articles that ended up with a link trying to sell something else. So 90% of your website was now devoted to pulling your traffic away.
There are some really easy, quick and inexpensive ways to put up a web site and generate some money directly and eliminate one of the middlemen.
If the parking companies said park your domain here and based on our greater visibility we will send you 10,000 visitors a month. That would be great. What they are really saying is help build up our business for us and as a reward we will give you a portion of the commissions from all of the traffic you work to send to your sites.
I think the deal may be a little different for domains they view as really hot traffic generators. Most parking companies aren’t interested in just any domain name and they will put you through a screening to determine whether they want you or not.
In today’s expiring domain market with the large registrars “tasting” domains they think may have potenetial before they drop you need to have some sophisticated tools to give you a shot at what they drop.
So I’ve set up two of my domains http://www.seedpodmedia.com
and http://www.hotdotauctions.com to both share some of what I’ve learned to help others, sell some of my own domains and make some affiliate money.
I’d be interested to know other’s experiences with the various parking sites. There might be one that you’ve found to be profitable or a way you have found to make parking programs pay. Always willing to learn.
All the best,
Ted Sudol
Hey Ted,
Great comment! I think most parking companies are looking for type in traffic, and the point with parking is that within seconds you can be earning some nice cash *if* your site drives the traffic.
From what I have learned to this point is no parking program will be able to pull any type of real lasting search traffic.
So why should someone like me park a site then? Sear number of domains is the obvious answer. Their is only so much time in the day and only so much can get done.
As I plan my soft launch into domaining (this site is part of that plan) I am picking up quite a few domains that I could see myself creating sites for. However my master plan is to make all these domains available for sale. I think my domains will offer value to anyone into internet marketing. Nearly all the domain I purchase are taken from wordtracker.com searches, many have very good potential.
- dwicrimes(dot)com
- sailorcaps(dot)com
- formathd(dot)com
- lyricdisplay(dot)com
Just some of the domains that will be soon available for sale. When I want to create a new site I can just choose a site from my own portfolio and take it off my “for sale website”.
Will check out your sites Ted -
Brian J
Hi,
You mentioned in your video several tools that you found several tools you use in domain hunting that you have found to be valuable. What are they? What are your guildlines you use in choosing domains you feel have potential? Thanks
All the best,
Ted Sudol
Hi,
In your video you mentioned that doing keyword research is very important. If you are chooseing a two word domain name should both terms be the search term? For instance on the example you gave above sailor caps according to wordtracker was searched 68 times in the last 90 days and cap was searched 476.
So does that make sailor caps a good domain to grab in you mind? Wordtracker says there was 108 searches in the last 90 days for lyric display. Are you choosing these domains on the basis of keyword research or some other criteria?
What tools do you use to help you select sort out the domains you register? I think you mentioned in the video you purchased 80 domains just recently. What criteria do you find most important to selecting the domains you feel have potential? Thanks in advance for your help.
All the best,
Ted Sudol
Hi Ted,
Some really great questions - I think what we need is a video about my thoughts about domain selection. I have several “formulas” that I use to find domains. I do want to touch on some ideas quickly here though:
You mention the domain I picked up, sailorcaps.com
One method I like and use of is to “dig” into wordtracker and save lists. This way I know I am generating domain names based on actual keyword searches.
I just checked wordtracker to refresh my memory:
Wordtracker estimates “sailor caps” gets over 100 searches a day. Having the .com of the exact phrase really makes driving seo traffic a breeze.
It is also very easy to remember “hey check out sailor caps.com” … bla bla bla
These two factors make the name easily brand able + their is already a built in market of people online searching for “sailor caps”.
Hope that helps,
Brian
Hi Brian,
Thanks for your thoughts on choosing domain names. What are the tools you mentioned in your video that you have found helpful? What sources do you use for your domain names? Have you sold any of your domain names on the aftermarket like Sedo or Afternic?
One of the other questions I have is on valuation. If you use some of the free automated appraisals you get what seem to be widely inflated values that no one will buy at. On the other hand if you paid the 29.00 for one of the paid appraisals for each of the domains in your portfolio you could go broke. (and I’ve been told that they are no better than the free valuations.
Thanks again. Looking forward to that video you promised.
All the best,
Ted Sudol
http://www.hotdotauctions.com
Hi,
What happened? You seem to have disappeared for a while. Hope everything is OK. You were going to post a video showing the tools that you use. I was very interested in the tools you use to help you dig out those golden names.
I guess I’m not using wordtracker in the right way. For instance I just watched a video from someone who was supposed to be making money on the net with adwords. She claims to be making $1200 a month in Adsense revenue. It would take a pretty good amount of traffic to generate that much in Adsense revenue.
Now if I go to wordtracker and type in cruise diva it says that all of its search engines found there were 21 searches for that in the last 90 days. That certainly wouldn’t generate that much in ad sense revenue. So I must be reading the wordtracker results wrong. What should I be looking at in Wordtracker.
What’s your experience on typos - some people love them and think they are gold - some people say if you don’t have the right spelling don’t bother.
What’s you experience on hyphens. A lot of people say don’t bother and yet the stats often show good type in traffic.
Shoot me an email and let me know what tools you use to help you out.
All the best,
Ted Sudol
Hi,
I don’t know if this comment went through. The first time I hit submit comment I got a wordpress database error forllowed by a whole page of error messages. Thinking it didn’t go through I went back and hit it again it said duplicate comment- seems like you have said this already. So if you already have this comment please discard.
What happened? You seem to have disappeared for a while. Hope everything is OK. You were going to post a video showing the tools that you use. I was very interested in the tools you use to help you dig out those golden names.
I guess I’m not using wordtracker in the right way. For instance I just watched a video from someone who was supposed to be making money on the net with adwords. She claims to be making $1200 a month in Adsense revenue. It would take a pretty good amount of traffic to generate that much in Adsense revenue.
Now if I go to wordtracker and type in cruise diva it says that all of its search engines found there were 21 searches for that in the last 90 days. That certainly wouldn’t generate that much in ad sense revenue. So I must be reading the wordtracker results wrong. What should I be looking at in Wordtracker.
What’s your experience on typos - some people love them and think they are gold - some people say if you don’t have the right spelling don’t bother.
What’s you experience on hyphens. A lot of people say don’t bother and yet the stats often show good type in traffic.
Shoot me an email and let me know what tools you use to help you out.
All the best,
Ted Sudol
Hi,
I’ve been waiting for you to talk about the tools you used. Since you haven’t responded I went and purchased one that you recommended Domain Research Tool. So far it appears to be useless. When you run it in demo mode it pulls up useful statistics. But once you actually purchase it an use it on current lists all if pulls up is question marks for all of the statistics for all of the domains in the list. Since that information is available elsewhere I know it can be had- its just that this software doesn’t pick up any of the information. I’ve sent several emails to their tech support about this and the fact that there is no way to use authenticated proxies (which are more reliable) - so far no response from them. So until I get some information or some fixes to the software so it works a big thumbs down. If I get any information that changes this to the useful software I think it could be I’ll post it here and on my sites. I’ve set up two of my domains http://www.seedpodmedia.com
and http://www.hotdotauctions.com
to both share some of what I’ve learned to help others, sell some of my own domains and make some affiliate money.
All the best,
Ted Sudol
Hi Ted,
Did you see the video plus 1000 word very long post I did here yesterday on the tools I use?
I also sent you an email to your Gmail account several days ago? I never recieved an email.
DRT:
Great powerful tool that takes some getting used too. My guess is your NOT using proxies. You must have proxies for DRT to really do what it is intented to do.
Brian
Hi,
I was using proxies. The problem with open free proxy lists is that most of them are dead or dying from overuse since they are open to everyone. The proxies I use are private proxies -so they remain healthy - but that means the software that uses proxies must be able to use authenticated proxies - which at this point DRT doesn’t.
I put 591 public proxies into DRT and tested them - only 7 were alive and I went with those 7
However I just got a reply from Luc at DRT and that is someting they are working on.
By the way public proxies will slow down your scan results, not speed them up. The reason you need to use proxies with DRT is that you quickly exceed the maximum number of queries the various search engines allow and by using proxies they see you as new users.
Never received your email - I’ll check again. Maybe it got misrouted. You sent it to the ted sudol address? I’ll look for your new video and post.
All the best,
Ted Sudol
http://www.seedpodmedia.com
http://www.hotdotauctions.com
Ted,
You really need real proxies, free proxies … well you get what you pay for as they say. I use the proxes listed wihin DRT. It is a great program, and has many .. many uses
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Brian
Hi,
Got your response to my comment about driving traffic to the parked page site. Maybe drive was the wrong word. A better way to put is might be whose responsibility is it to see that traffic comes to your parked site - yours or the parking company? At parking sites I’ve been to they do put up the context sensitive ads however they made it clear that through SEO optimization, submission to search engines, etc it was my responsibility to get traffic to my site. They would do nothing to get traffic to the site - their responsibility was in putting up the parked page.
Of course things like buying lists, buying traffic, etc are against the TOS because they are generally low quality non-targeted traffic what they want is targeted traffic that will be interested in the context sensative ads the place on the site to generate revenue for them.
So what parking company works to get traffic to your site? Thanks in advance for your help.
All the best,
Ted Sudol
http://www.seedpodmedia.com
http://www.hotdotauctions.com
Ted,
My personal use of parking companies is just to “house” my domains while I work on building them out. I don’t try to spend time getting traffic to a parked domain. It really does not make sense anyway.
Why would I try to get traffic to a parked page when I can simply use wordpress, build a niche store and good ole html to create a real site.
So why do I bother with parking, cause it does make me money every day. Not tons of money but money no less (think maybe $1 - $10’s a day). I also like to do domain research in bulk over say a week or two and I might pick up 100 domains. Right now I have about 350 domains, I sure can not work at all of them at the same time so I “park them” till I am ready to work on the sites.
Also understand big hitters have domains with type in traffic, these domains can be cash cow’s with the right parked company. Read the homepage about type in traffic.
Brian
Hi,
So what do you look for when you are choosing domain names. There’s lots of statistics around and they are often conflicting. Do you look for Type-In traffic. Often the MSN, Overature, Google, etc Type in Nunbers vary greatly. Do you look for links? What have you found to be most accurate in helping you find the names you want that can both bring in a smaller parking income and have the possiblity of bringing in a bigger payday with some development. Thanks again.
All the best,
Ted Sudol